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Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:52 pm

Just for you Dave, here's last years suspension refresh
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All suspension off, front clam off for a new radiator.
Front toe eye replacement. The original had rusted through, only found this when i removed it! Glad I never needed it.

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:57 pm

Although the wishbones were not too bad, they were mildly rusting.
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So they all got sand blasted ready for zinc coating.
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Looking a bit cleaner!

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by Nathan » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:14 pm

Nice job on the suspension Jas. My front wishbones looked much worse that yours when I did mine.

I'm thinking about doing my rad this winter after having a brief sprinkle from the end cap when me and the missus were on a South Wales road trip in the summer. It's been fine since but I do wonder if it's living on borrowed time. Who's rad did you use? I know many people switch to alloy but these don't seem much more reliable in the long term than the original ones! Did you replace the fans too?
Any issues to look out for?
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by oggy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:50 pm

I like the look of them rollers for moving the car around. I have something just like them ready to go under mine ;)
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by Martin 111S » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:17 pm

Looks to me like its on axle stands Oggy, :unsure:
I thought that was just for Jase to slide underneath easier :)
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:50 pm

Nathan wrote:Nice job on the suspension Jas. My front wishbones looked much worse that yours when I did mine.

I'm thinking about doing my rad this winter after having a brief sprinkle from the end cap when me and the missus were on a South Wales road trip in the summer. It's been fine since but I do wonder if it's living on borrowed time. Who's rad did you use? I know many people switch to alloy but these don't seem much more reliable in the long term than the original ones! Did you replace the fans too?
Any issues to look out for?
I used the Eliseparts rad, my fan was fine so left it alone. The car lives indoors, which I think helps. Just fire up your fans and check they are smooth & quiet.
I had gone through 2 plastic radiators in the time I've had my car, and both failures were end caps leaking.

The trolley was used to rotate the car in the barn, I put it on axle stands after as I needed to get to the rear lower wishbone bolts.

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by Dave C » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:10 pm

Nice one Jason, it has satisified my need to see jobs I cannot do :lol:
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by mikeydude » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:50 pm

I wish I had a Barn
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:47 pm

Stripped & started cleaning!
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They do come up clean sometimes.
This list of jobs grew, fixing the front radiator panel more securely, make sure there are no wires damaged, steering rack removal, strip & rebuild with new bushes.
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Eliseparts alloy radiator with home made fan mounting brackets to replace the rusty steel original items.
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:53 pm

Full kit of parts.
Wishbones nickle coated then clear POR
Rose jointed bushes to replace original items
Stainless toeing eye
New ball joints all round
New bolts all round, replaced all nuts for motorsport 'light weight' equivalent
Shocks cleaned and visually checked
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by Thommo » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:50 pm

Dave C wrote:Nice one Jason, it has satisified my need to see jobs I cannot do :lol:

Me too!
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:00 pm

Replaced all the ball joints. To fit the new ones, I found it easier to remove the boot from the joint so there was no chance of getting it trapped. Where's the frickin grease?
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Put a load of grease in a zip lock bag, zip it up and gut a small section off the corner of the bag, then you can squirt the stuff where you need it.
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Refit boots and circular clip, jobs done!
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Start to re-assemble!

It was freezing in the barn, so I didnt get many pictures during the rebuild stage.

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:02 pm

About the only picture I have of the rear suspension after the refresh.
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The front end with the radiator panel refitted
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I took the opportunity to add a few more fasteners to this panel and try to make it a little less flimsy. Those f you who have driven or been in my car will know it made a mahoosive difference to the ride quality, very few bumps make noise, the suspension just soaks them up without it sounding like your trying to kill the thing!

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by oggy » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:09 pm

Come on you can't fool me, you forgot to fit the bloody brake disc's didn't you ;) no wonder your always complaint about your brakes there's no bloody discs on :lol:
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by whitergb » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:58 pm

Springs look a bit mucky too. Lol
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by *ian_pez* » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:38 pm

Do you have a cost per corner please?

Thinking of having a go at this with mine.

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by oggy » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:19 am

*ian_pez* wrote:Do you have a cost per corner please?

Thinking of having a go at this with mine.

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It all depends on what bushes you use and where you get your parts from. Seriously lotus do a refresh kit http://www.seriouslylotus.com/suspensio ... efresh-kit but you have got to add on the cost of stripping the wishbones and paint for them and also it will need a full geo when you've finished. If your doing it yourself you will save a lot of money on labour costs. You will also need a ball joint removal tool unless your lucky like me and know someone with a hydraulic press. Don't make the same mistake I made, get decent bushes, get the wishbones sandblasted and paint them with por15 paint, don't use anything else as it's just crap. It's quite a big job but well within anybody's capabilities (except Dave ;) ) and very satisfying when it's done. I will be doing mine again just after crimbo as I used shit bushes last time and will be putting up a few posts. If you need any advice just ask.
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:53 am

oggy wrote:Come on you can't fool me, you forgot to fit the bloody brake disc's didn't you ;) no wonder your always complaint about your brakes there's no bloody discs on :lol:
The discs are mounted in the wheels, derr! Along with the kers system and dilithium enhancers.
That's designer rust you know!

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by oggy » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:41 am

jbs_type25 wrote:
oggy wrote:Come on you can't fool me, you forgot to fit the bloody brake disc's didn't you ;) no wonder your always complaint about your brakes there's no bloody discs on :lol:
The discs are mounted in the wheels, derr! Along with the kers system and dilithium enhancers.
That's designer rust you know!
Is that the derr system or the Kerr system :lol:
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:22 pm

Last picture I took!
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All in all, good result. Spherical bushes are fantastic, no louder that original bushes. With the additional fasteners in the right place, the cars a lot quieter.

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by mikeydude » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:57 pm

forgive my ignorance ...but where do these additional fasteners go and what do they fasten?
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by jbs_type25 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:24 pm

mikeydude wrote:forgive my ignorance ...but where do these additional fasteners go and what do they fasten?
I doubled up the mounting screws holding the radiator surround panel to the crashbox. Also doubled up the screws holding the wheel arch liners to the car. I used the VW rawl plugs, which are a square hole fitment, then used the VW torx screws to hold it all down, so everything is properly bolted together and doesn't move around. If you click on one of the photos above, youll get into my photobucket album, the only pictures I have are on there, but check the little white plastic things screwed into the crashbox, then look for the black torx screws one the rad surround panel.

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by Dave C » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:22 pm

Looks like satisfying work...if only I had the time/space/skills !!
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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by oggy » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:35 am

Dave C wrote:Looks like satisfying work...if only I had the time/space/skills !!
Dave you own a V6 Exige which you pay people to service I own a S1 Elise that I repair myself I wish I had your skill set :lol:
I feel a change coming :unsure:

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Re: Part winter rebuild

Post by Paul » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:01 am

oggy wrote:
Dave C wrote:Looks like satisfying work...if only I had the time/space/skills !!
Dave you own a V6 Exige which you pay people to service I own a S1 Elise that I repair myself I wish I had your skill set :lol:
:D

That did make me smile :D

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